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Re: doctor who

Post by Wonko the Sane on Sun May 01, 2011 4:27 pm

I'm waiting for a few episodes to come out before I watch them. From what I heard, the first episode was like the first half of a movie, where it just ends halfway through. I hate when shows do that. I'd rather wait and watch them all at once.

Consequently, if you're gonna write spoilers in here, put them inside a spoiler tag thing so it gets hidden.

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Re: doctor who

Post by Cap'nJackSparrow on Mon May 02, 2011 8:41 am

I haven't written any spoilers, and don't intend to.

Well, beyond a vague "Wasn't X creepy eh?" with literal X's.

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Re: doctor who

Post by KaiStagon on Mon May 02, 2011 4:02 pm

Spoiler:
Did Doctor Who REALLY condone genocide?? The solution to the Silent felt very unDoctor like... but I guess after what he did to the Daleks, I shouldn't be surprised.

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Re: doctor who

Post by Cap'nJackSparrow on Mon May 02, 2011 6:57 pm

I picked up on that too, but was there really anything else to do?

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Re: doctor who

Post by KaiStagon on Tue May 03, 2011 2:51 am

I agree with you entirely. I think it is curious though-- perhaps the ending might not be what we think it was. I enjoyed this story arch very much regardless.

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Post by Cap'nJackSparrow on Wed May 04, 2011 7:33 am

Agreed.

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Re: doctor who

Post by Mr.Fjord on Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:21 pm

Season finale today. Who-yeah.

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Re: doctor who

Post by Wonko the Sane on Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:33 pm

I ended up waiting for the entire season to finish before I started watching it. Everyone said that practically each episode was a cliffhanger so I decided that was best.

So now I can finally start watching that and Torchwood, since they're both over cheers

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Re: doctor who

Post by Theicecreaman on Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:55 pm

Okay so umm...you know how in the Apple thread I said that I watched 4 episodes? Yeah uhh I'm at 7 now.

Holy snap. This show is kickass...why did I not watch it before?

I didn't like the episode where Rose tries to save her dad, though. I think it would have been better if everything were fixed from the time paradox, rather than the creation of an alternate history. I felt like innocent people just sorta got zapped and Rose was just too focused on saving her dad. I don't know...that's just me. It's sorta weird how young she is in all of this, but maybe that's just on purpose.

I've seen David Tennett or whatever his name was in some other movies too (Harry Potter and a modern-day Shakespeare adaptation of Hamlet that you can get on Netflix if you're as geeky as me), and I thought he did a good job in those. So I'm excited to see what he'll do as the next doctor (it's my understanding that he dies eventually and gets reborn or something).

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Re: doctor who

Post by time on Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:54 pm

The Father's Day (topical!) episode was interesting, I remember thinking the pterodactyls were a bit silly. I haven't seen it in ages though, I need to rewatch. Paul Cornell is a fantastic writer however, and he did a great 2-part story in season 3.

People seem to really like Tennant (and I do as well), but he's actually my least favorite Doctor of the new series. That's more saying positive things about the other guys than negative about Tennant though. And you'll get the hang of the whole concept of regeneration when you get there Wink

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Re: doctor who

Post by Wonko the Sane on Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:20 pm

Tennant's better than the other two Razz What's wrong with you, go rewatch them or something 'cause there's just no justifying that one.

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Re: doctor who

Post by Theicecreaman on Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:20 pm

You're right, Time, 'twas appropriate that I watched the Father's Day episode today Razz

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Re: doctor who

Post by time on Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:08 am

Wonko the Sane wrote:Tennant's better than the other two Razz What's wrong with you, go rewatch them or something 'cause there's just no justifying that one.
This was actually a more recent revelation for me. I started watching a lot of the classic series, and I fell in love with 2 and 7. Then I went back and watched some of Matt, and I was thrilled to see so much of the classic Doctors represented in his character. Then I went back to some of David's episodes and he just talked really fast and yelled and was so melodramatic... He plays a good character but he's not as good of a Doctor as the others.

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Re: doctor who

Post by Loki on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 am

Wonko the Sane wrote:Tennant's better than the other two Razz What's wrong with you, go rewatch them or something 'cause there's just no justifying that one.
YES!

Incidentally, next series when?
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Re: doctor who

Post by time on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:34 am

Fall. No premier date yet, but I'd speculate October or November.

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Re: doctor who

Post by Theicecreaman on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:08 am

I watched episode 1 of season 2, and I have to say that, so far, I'm liking the first doctor better. I liked the whole nonchalant, James Bond-ish "man of mystery" vibe he had and I recommend watching it if you haven't already seen it (Loki!). This guy seems a tad eccentric, and I'm not sure if I can dig that yet.

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Re: doctor who

Post by time on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:33 am

9th doctor actually

this guy is the first doctor Very Happy

but yeah, I think the best way to describe Tennant's take on the Doctor is... caffeinated. He's great once you get used to his style. I do prefer 9 and 11 to him though.

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Post by Loki on Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:24 pm

I know all about the 9th Doctor and I don't like him. I prefer the "happy face but I regret so much" 10th Doctor. Heck, even Matt Smith pulls it off better than Eccleston did.
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Post by Wonko the Sane on Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:54 pm

I agree with Loki. Tennant was able to carry the weight of being a Timelord much better than the other two. Eccleston has none of this. Matt Smith tries, but whenever he says something profound about being old and having done horrible things and so forth, you just don't see it in his eyes the way you saw it in Tennant's. And Matt Smith tries to show genuine care and concern for his companions but, let's face it, nobody will ever top Tennant sitting in the bar with Wilfred almost in tears near the end of it all.

And Ice, don't jump ahead, you!! There's a larger story being told and you're going to ruin it completely if you jump ahead at all. To be honest, this is probably one of my favorite things about the series. Even when they change Doctors there's an overarching story and elements from past episodes come back into the new ones and tie into the new stuff. It's really great.

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Re: doctor who

Post by time on Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:42 pm

this hating on the 9th doctor is making me so so so so sad

re-watch his run. seriously. he's incredible.

I pretty much disagree with you 100% about the whole "weight of being a Timelord thing." I found Tennant's portrayal of it to be hammy and far too melodramatic, where the others don't dwell on it nearly as much as he does, but when it comes up it's frightening, and cuts you to the core (Smith more so than Eccleston though).

About the companions, I think that's the best part about Tennant. I think the my favorite aspect of 10 was how he got on with his companions, especially Donna and Wilfred. Actually season 3 wasn't as good, but that was more of a fault with the writing. They had him fawning over Rose all season and giving Martha no attention, which made me hate Rose even more and wasted Martha's potential. You're not giving Smith enough credit using the word "tries" though, I don't think Smith has had anyone as good to play off of as Wilfred. He was the cutest old man ever.

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Post by Theicecreaman on Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:05 pm

Haha I've seen about 3 episodes into the 2nd season so far. But yeah, I'm liking his performance more and more. I hope Rose doesn't die or something Sad All this talk about new companions is making me worry lol.

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Re: doctor who

Post by time on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:04 pm

Companions come and go frequently... and they do die sometimes! I won't spoil Rose for you though...

And yeah, you'll absolutely love 10 pretty soon. He's really awesome.

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Post by Wonko the Sane on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:14 pm

Rose was the best companion and the best story arc with the possible small exception of the Weeping Angels.

I don't know what 9th Doctor Kool-Aid you've been drinking, Time, but I haven't met anyone who liked him over Tennant or any other companion better than Rose until now. You're the first. And I know quite a few Whovians...

I'll agree with you that he's a lot more like classic Doctor Who in terms of goofy cheesy light-heartedness, but really who likes the old Doctor Whos anyway. Nobody, that's who. Mind you I'm not saying he was bad, I thoroughly enjoyed all three Doctors so far, but Tennant takes the cake by an enormously huge distance. If you have doubts about Tennant vs Smith, watch Smith's last couple River Song episodes then go rewatch Tennant's Library episode. Amazingly huge difference in the emotions portrayed by each actor. Smith has a more goofy, classic Doctor Who style whereas Tennant really emphasized his past, losses and mistakes. Personally, I found that character far more convincing for someone who has lived through 900 years of time and space.


Ice, don't click these links until after you're done with Tennant. I mean completely done. There be spoilers ahead. DO NOT CLICK no matter how tempting.

Now then, Timey Wimey, you mean to say that this guy:
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/22603900728

as an actor is able to portray emotion better than this guy:

http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/14746577160/rose-references-in-series-3-4-so-reel-me-in
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/18562794765/in-my-headcanon-one-of-the-reasons-why-rose-was

Another, side by side in a very similar script:
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/17440798900/the-doctor-sending-rose-away-in-the-parting-of

Sorry but there's no comparison there. Just look at the eyes. You call it melodramatic, I call it real. How would you feel having gone through all that his character did? But I guess if you prefer the more goofy characters that's a valid preference. I always thought the emotional style of Tennant's acting was more appealing.


Also, I have a slightly different perspective on the Martha arc. I thought the whole point of him being stuck in the past and ignoring Martha was to reveal the depth of his character, that he really and truly cares for these companions and when one of them leaves him it really does hurt. Matt Smith has finally started to show some of this and I hope as he continues to develop his own acting style he keeps it up because these are the things that connect the different seasons and different Doctors together. Matt Smith has even made a reference or two back to Rose and you almost get a glimpse of it, but not quite. I wish they would do this more because it's a nice reward for the people who have been following the show for a while.

But take a look at these Martha ones, and ice, seriously do not click. Major spoilers.
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/14929098157/rose-references-in-series-3-6-rose-her-name
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/15261453441/rose-references-in-series-3-10-hes-just
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/15474346295/rose-references-in-series-3-12-shes-alive
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/15195576082/rose-references-in-series-3-9-youre-taking
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/13167108289/evolution-of-the-daleks
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/15040085765/rose-references-in-series-3-7-rose-would

Her story arc wasn't about herself at all, it was all about revealing the Doctor.


More, just for fun, because these are great:
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/14632465832/rose-references-in-series-3-2
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/14582688222/rose-references-in-series-3-1
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/14127870116/rose-1
http://blaue-box.tumblr.com/post/13472131114


k I'm done now.

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Re: doctor who

Post by time on Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:20 am

Wonko the Sane wrote: but really who likes the old Doctor Whos anyway. Nobody, that's who.
YOU ARE HARSHING MY MELLOW

In my opinion, Rose is one of the least interesting characters I've ever watched on television. She had the same function that the lead in a lot of fiction for teens has, basically a blank slate character that viewers can easily relate to without alienating anyone. There's nothing particularly wrong with that as a storytelling choice, but there's no question that companions like Donna or Amy and Rory are far more fleshed out and interesting to watch.

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Post by Wonko the Sane on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:27 am

They definitely had more of their own backstory. A lot of people I know had a strange soft spot for Donna for some reason. And Rory's a great character. But none of them had that long term connection with the Doctor that Rose had. I'm pretty sure Doctor Who wouldn't be nearly as popular right now if it weren't for the 10th Doctor and Rose.

Oh yeah, Ice, don't forget to watch all the specials too. They're usually in between each season. There's always a Christmas special, for example, and they can be pretty awesome and important story-wise and character development-wise.

I don't know about you Time, but my favorite intro speech so far was the 10th Doctor on the Titanic when someone asked who he was anyway. I think when they had Matt Smith give his speech to the alien invaders, this was the bar they set to compete with. They came very close, I really like what they wrote for Smith, but the Titanic one is just so epic Very Happy

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